NSIDE KUNG-FU: Who are you training with right now? FRANK SHAMROCK: All of my training I do exclusively at my school with my students as well as Danny Daniels. He’s one of our pros who is getting ready to debut in Bushido. With my shoulder injury, haven’t trained that much since my fight in December. I’ve been rehabbing and recuperating it and I’ve really I not done a whole lot.
IKF: What do you think about the fight between Silva and Sakuraba? Are you still interested in fighting Sakuraba or do you see Silva posing a greater challenge to you?
FS: I think Vanderlei Silva is an awesome fighter and he will always be a dangerous fighter. But I don’t see him posing a threat to me as a fighter or as an athlete. I don’t have a lot of interest in fighting him.
I like Sakuraba as a person, as a martial artist. As a fighter I would fight him for the challenge of fighting him, because I like what he’s done and how he carries j himself. Him losing doesn’t change my desire to fight him. It doesn’t change my desire to do combat with him. It may change the marketability of the fight, it may change the payday, but it doesn’t change the way I feel about him. I’d like to fight him. I think would grow as a fighter and as a person if fought him.
IKF: In a recent interview, you expressed your interest in fighting Igor Vovchanchin. What do you think of Tre Tellig-man’s performance against Igor in the last Pride? Would you still like a shot at Igor? FS: I think Tre Telligman’s fight against Igor was awesome, a classic battle of a serious underdog just tearing it up. I’ve always known Tre had the ability. He’s just had a lot of unfortunate problems, a lot of training problems, conditioning problems and he finally pulled it all together for one night, which was beautiful. I want to fight Vovchanchin because I’m scared to death of him: if I’m scared of heights, I’m going to climb the tallest building and I’m going to look down. If I’m scared of riding a motorcycle, I’m going to get on and ride. I’m scared of Igor Vovchanchin and that’s why I want to fight him. The guy’s scary; I like that.
IKF: What do you say to critics about the allegations that you’ve been dodging Vitor Belfort? FS: Well, I am dodging Vitor. I’ve spent my life dodging fighters. That’s what I do. Yeah, it’s just unfortunate that our paths crossed at the wrong time. First, he was hot and I wasn’t. New I’m hot and he isn’t. The fight really doesn’t make sense. I’d like to fight him. I like his striking, I like what he brings to the table, but I don’t think he’s got a lot of heart. I know I would break him, but it would be a challenge for me. Every fighter is a challenge for me, but he’s not pulling in the gate so it makes no sense to fight him.
I’m at the point in my career where I only have three or four more fights left and those fights are fights for me. I don’t care about the fans and I don’t care about the crowd. I’m in it for me now. I’m in it so that when I retire and I look at my trophies I can say, That guy almost kicked my butt and scared the heck out of me and I’m really glad I fought him. Vitor doesn’t scare the heck out of me and I don’t really care if I fight him.
IKF: You said you want to come back later this year after your shoulder heals. Are there plans for a title shot?
FS: I don’t know about a title. I don’t know what’s going to happen with the titles. I do know that I will fight once more this year and fight once more the next year and after that I don’t really have a lot of plans. I’m not going to retire, but I just don’t see it anymore. There’s just not any more out there to do. I don’t know what else I can do. I don’t know what other titles I can win. Eventually, there comes a point where it’s like every time I step into the ring, I just get more and more broken and I get more and more damaged and it’s not much fun anymore.
I’m getting to the point where there are a couple guys I want to bang with and that’s it.
IKF: What do you think about your last fight with Elvis? A lot of people hadn’t heard of Elvis and thought that you’d finish him pretty quickly, but the fight went the distance. What do you think of him as a fighter and of his performance at the UFC?
FS: I think Elvis is an awesome fighter and I trained extremely hard to fight Elvis. I did hurt my shoulder, but when I walked into that ring I was 93-percent ready. I was almost at the top of my game and Elvis took me for a ride. You know, I couldn’t knock him out and I couldn’t submit him. I didn’t give Elvis a lot of credit after the fight because I thought I wasn’t very tough that night and he came out in the UFC and he beat Jeremy Horn like that and I went up and I apologized to him and I told him, I’m sorry I didn’t give you credit because I didn’t think I was that tough that night. He’s a tough son of a gun and I apologize. I give him every accolade he deserves. I couldn’t put him away and I don’t think it’s because I was rusty or I was off or my shoulder hurt. Elvis is just a tough guy and if you’re not on your toes he’s going to kick your butt. Everyone’s tough now; you look at Pride and you look at what’s happened. The top ten rankings have all changed after the Pride show and I’ve got a feeling after the UFC all the top ten rankings are going to change again. It’s just everybody is as good as everyone else, everybody trains just as hard as everyone else, and everyone is as dangerous as everybody else.
IKF: Do you feel since you left the UFC the sport has changed or evolved somewhat? FS: The sport evolves every month. Every time there’s a show — whether it’s hook n’ shoot or WEF or Bushido or the UFC or Pride — every time a fight goes on this sport evolves and moves to the next level. I mean, you watch the last UFC and watch the next one and you’ll see different moves, different strategies, and different strengths. It’s always evolving.